sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
From the OP
There is so much more detail I could add to this
Perhaps working backwards and removing details is a way to find a broader, generalized understanding of "truth" - theistic or atheistic, only remain subjective preferences then! Would any consider this suggestion?
i often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?.
i mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care.
"it is the truth after all".. they are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it.
May I suggest that, unrelated facts can be of entirely opposite nature and yet co-exist. Example: quantum physics and traditional understanding of physics appear mutually contradictory, yet both stand up to examination!
hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.
a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.
how did it work pre-flood?
a hell of a anchor, a wooden anchor
Perhaps hooked to a giant sea creature, now extinct and undiscovered, causing fear in the Greeks of Poseidon.
normal behaviour
or
people’s behavior
"appears" different...but, means the same.
Worth a thought, isn't it?...you be the "judge".
this one for simon.
others chime in if you agree.. sometimes i find it hard to track the threads where i have posted and where i have posted last on a particular thread.
it's very time consuming to go and look for it.
Thank you, Mr. Simon.
Your site is already nice...and you seem courteous.
Wish you well.
PS: I appreciate your Community Guidelines page.
Neil Young...similar idea as yours...in a song
when i was a jw, i was taught that i can never succeed in life if i leave the sect.
now that i am no longer a member of the fold, how can i succeed in this only life i have and achieve my dreams?.
May I ask for your consideration:
What interests you?
What natural ability do you have?
What particular skill might align your interest with that ability?
Fewer people; more time!
Nice subject.
background:.
my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.
i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.
You have patience, doubtful1799.
Beautifully written; a journey for sure!
I wish you well.
We keep the peace by not discussing anything at all controversial.
Words of wisdom, these.
Don’t get me wrong, I have had a good life, but I could have done so much more with it if I had known the real truth. I could have been a real help to people, not just pseudo help.
That is a beautiful sentiment, but your dissatisfaction might not be called for.
One question: How do you think, your experience has affected your idea/expectations of "truth"? Please respond at your convenience.
Thank you,
S K Ditta.
i left school at 16, because i was studying and getting the best " university education" in the world.
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how did the theocratic ministry school benefit you?.
How did the theocratic ministry school benefit you?
Perhaps, the art of seeing relations between concepts in a "pre-defined" structure.
And how words in books can connect in ways with realities of actions, words, and behaviors.
